Chat : May 21, 2007

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Attorney Murthy : It is wonderful to have so many of you with us again today. We welcome your questions and look forward to helping you with your immigration matters. Thank you for your interest in our MurthyChat.

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Chat User : Once my sponsor's I-140 is filed to the USCIS for consular GC processing, can I apply for an F-1 visa to study in the U.S.?

Attorney Murthy : A person who has expressed an intent to immigrate to the U.S. cannot apply for the F-1, which is a pure nonimmigrant visa. The consular officer must deny the F-1 after one has an I-140 petition filed on his/her behalf.

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Chat User : My priority date is August 2001 and we are planning to go to India in June on AP. If our GC comes in our absence, can we return on AP or not? Will we need the GC to enter?

Attorney Murthy : The general rule of law is that a person is allowed to reenter the U.S. using the AP, as long as it has not yet expired. One is paroled into the U.S. to either go and get the passport stamped or to get the I-485 approval with the GC, or the I-551 card being mailed to her/him later on.

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Chat User : Dear Murthyji, will CIR have any impact on EB retrogression?

Attorney Murthy : Well, it may have an impact if the EB numbers are increased, as is proposed to clear out the backlogs in the Senate version that is being debated. Otherwise, we do not know its impact yet, since there is no one specific agreed-upon proposal that translates to CIR. There are many variations of CIR, depending on the people who envision what they would ideally like in CIR. The recent proposal by a bipartisan group in the U.S. Senate has many interesting and problematic issues.

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Chat User : My I-140 is approved, and I’m planning to change employers. Can my employer cancel my approved I-140 petition without stating any reason to the USCIS? If so, will I lose my priority date? Please advise.

Attorney Murthy : An employer has the legal right to cancel or revoke the I-140 petition at any time, since the LC and I-140 belong to the employer, by law. Generally, the USCIS has been providing the original or earlier PD, even after the revocation, but there is a greater risk of losing the PD where the I-140 petition has been revoked.

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Chat User : Is it possible to file an I-485 with a letter of offer from an employer (current employer) who is different from the GC-sponsoring employer (past employer), under whom the I-140 approval was received, if the job descriptions are identical?

Attorney Murthy : It is not possible to file the I-485 with a new employer unless one starts a brand new PERM or LC with the new employer. Then, after it is approved, files the I-140 petition, and if the PDs are current, then file the I-485 with the new employer. In the alternative, AC21 portability will allow a person to change employers only if the I-485 has been pending for over 180 days and the new job is considered same or similar, plus the I-140 petition must be approved or at least approvable. The I-485 must be supported by a valid job offer from the LC/I-140 sponsor at the time of filing.

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Chat Master : Responses vary with the nuances of each question and because immigration law is constantly changing. The subtle differences in questions may call for very different legal responses and strategies. You are advised to treat these materials as general information, not to be applied to a specific circumstance without consulting with your attorney.

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Chat User : After my I-140 was approved but before going for consular processing, my company was sold to another company. When do we need to do the amendment? Thanks.

Attorney Murthy : It is safest to file the I-140 amendment at the time of the sale when there is a successor in interest entity that agrees to take over the obligations of the earlier I-140 process. If the PDs are current, then the I-140 amendment can be filed with the pending I-485 with the EAD and AP, where required.

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Chat User : If I start a new labor substitution today, would I be able to have it approved by July 16th? Please advise. Thanks.

Attorney Murthy : Under the DOL regulation published on May 17, 2007, there are statements that say that it is not required for one to obtain the I-140 LC substitution approval before July 16, 2007. The explanation to the regulation and the confirmation from the DOL is that the person is only required to file the I-140 LC substitution case so that it reaches the USCIS before that date. However, the actual wording of the regulation and the various interpretations are less clear on this point.

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Chat User : Hello, Attorney Murthy. Regarding the new LC substitution elimination rule - does it eliminate LC substitution at the I-140 stage as well?

Attorney Murthy : The LC substitution process is usually done at the time of filing the I-140 petition with the USCIS. The principle behind LC substitution is that a new person can step into the shoes of an earlier person for whom an LC was previously approved. Due to fraud and misuse in the LC system, the Department of Labor published the final rule to eliminate LC Substitutions with an effective date of July 16, 2007. It does include substitutions at the I-140 stage, since the authority for that comes from an agreement with the DOL.

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Chat User : Good evening. My change of status from H-4 to H1B is pending. I am traveling to India in August. Should I appear for my H1B in India, or should I go to Canada in September for H1B?

Attorney Murthy : If one travels abroad when a change of status (COS) has been filed and is still pending, s/he is deemed to have abandoned the COS application. Depending on the education of the person, s/he is supposed to go to either the home country (India), or to Canada, if the person has a U.S.-based education that can be verified by the consular officer in Canada.

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Chat User : Ms. Murthy, I greatly appreciate your service. I have a question on I-485 filing. My I-140 is approved, and my wife is traveling to India. Can I file the I-485 for her while she is out of the country?

Attorney Murthy : An I-485 can only be filed when a person is in the U.S., since the term "adjustment of status" means that one adjusts status from a nonimmigrant to an immigrant status within the U.S. It is worth it for her to cut short her vacation and return in a hurry, since we have seen some cases where the priority dates retrogress and the person is stuck abroad for 2 or 3 years, or if one could enter in the H-4 status, s/he falls out of status and cannot get the EAD until the PDs become current again. You both must fully understand the risks of your actions, since this could have serious consequences for your family and your peace of mind.

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Chat User : My H-1 application was filed this year in the lottery system. My filing fee check was cashed on April 25th. However, I received no receipt, yet. Does this mean I have been selected for the lottery?

Attorney Murthy : Based on the information that your check was cashed after the date notified by the USCIS for finalizing the random lottery, and the fact that the USCIS requested additional time to issue H1B receipt notices, it seems likely that you may have been selected under the computer-generated lottery system. Of course, the USCIS may issue further guidance modifying their position, but, as of now, it is a hopeful sign for you. Good luck!

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Chat User : Is it advantageous to file the I-485 and I-130 concurrently, or should the I-130 be done first and then proceed with consular processing?

Attorney Murthy : Well, that really depends on the circumstances of the case, where the person who will benefit from the application is living, the wishes of the family members, and the time that one is willing to wait to get permanent resident or GC status. Each of them have their pros and cons. Consult with a professional who you believe can explain the pros and cons, or undertake further research from MurthyDotCom so that you can go over the sorts of issues that will help in the decision of which avenue to pursue.

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Chat User : Hello, Ms. Murthy. Given the fact that labor substitution is coming to an end, can an employer revoke an approved I-140 (and underlying LC) for any reason?

Attorney Murthy : An employer can still revoke, and they do not need a reason or explanation. One reason is that the employer may wish to ensure that the employee cannot benefit from a process on which the employer has spent valuable money and effort to help one who has not fulfilled her or his part of the bargain. The LC and I-140 traditionally belong to the employer, so that they will likely continue to have the right to revoke the I-140 simply to cancel the process for the person. There are times when an employer will want / need to revoke an I-140, as the USCIS sometimes sends RFEs for ability to pay in an I-140 case asking for proof that that company can pay all the people for whom it has petitioned. If some are no longer with the company, it may be necessary to revoke their petitions in order to address ability-to-pay issues.

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Chat User : Hello, Murthiji. July 16, 2007 is the cutoff date for LC substitution. What will happen to the pending LC substitution cases if they are not approved within the cutoff date?

Attorney Murthy : The DOL has stated that, as long as the case is filed, then even if it takes the USCIS many months to process those cases they will remain valid and can be used to file the I-485 or consular process. They have stated this in the notes to the regulation and have confirmed this with us directly, in person. However, the wording of the actual regulation is far less clear on this point.

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Chat User : Is there premium processing for EAD through I-485 for first-time applicants?

Attorney Murthy : There is no premium processing available for I-485s or for EADs, as of now. It is not relevant if the person is a first-time or second-time AOS/EAD applicant. That option is simply not available at this time, under law.

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Chat User : Hello, Murthy. Thank you for your excellent service. I have noticed that the priority dates for EB3 and EB2 have moved quite a bit. Will it be the same in the near future?

Attorney Murthy : The U.S. Department of State has explained that it is likely that the PDs will move for another month or two, and then the dates will likely retrogress to where they were before the forward movement of the dates. It is possible that they may go back even further if too many people file for the I-485 and there is an expected excess demand of immigrant visa numbers. We have written many articles on this topic on MurthyDotCom that will help you to gauge the movement, but there is no way to be certain.

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Chat User : Hi, Sheela. Is traveling outside the U.S. permitted post N-400 filing? I plan to travel for 3 months. Also, should I have a U.S. employer during this filing process or be employed in the U.S. during this time?

Attorney Murthy : It is possible for one to travel abroad after filing the N-400 for naturalization. However, s/he should not remain outside the U.S. in any one trip for more than 180 days since that time results in a presumption of having broken the continuity of residence for citizenship purposes. Having a home, assets, job, membership in social or community organizations, etc, are evidence of one's strong ties to the U.S. in case the USCIS or CBP threatens to confiscate the GC. The person must show good moral character, and one way is to show filing of U.S. tax returns each year, among other examples.

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Chat User : Good evening, Murthyji. My name check has been pending for the last 2 years. Is there any way to expedite the process? Please advise. Thanks.

Attorney Murthy : Although the USCIS has recently announced that they will not expedite a name check simply because a person has filed or threatened to file a mandamus law suit, it has generally helped a person's case move much faster. We don't know if that will continue in the future, but it is a problem when so many people are stuck for years on end with security-related concerns when one person's name matches another person's name, especially with common names in many countries.

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Chat User : My parents recently got a visitor’s visa for the U.S. for a span of 10 years. I was told by many that they have to come to the U.S. within 6 months. Do they have to? Can they come after 6 months? Please advise. Thanks.

Attorney Murthy : For the B-2 tourist visa, there is no timeframe when a person must enter. One can enter anytime before the end of the 10 years, and at the airport or POE, the person on a B-2 tourist status will get 6 months of stay allowed in the U.S. The rule to enter within 6 months applies for green cards or immigrant visas; not for B-2s or other nonimmigrant visas. I hope this helps.

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Chat User : Good evening. When a person gets the EAD, does his/her nonimmigrant visa lose status? Can the person with the EAD use his/her visa to travel to India?

Attorney Murthy : Even after a person obtains the EAD, if s/he continues to maintain H1B status and work for the H1B employer, s/he may use the H1B visa stamp and the H1B petition approval to reenter the U.S. That is the principle of the dual intent H1B where the person can maintain both the nonimmigrant and the immigrant status.

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Chat User : Could an employer revoke an approved I-140 even after filing the AC21? If so, does it affect the PD of the employee?

Attorney Murthy : Where an employer requests the revocation of the I-140 petition after the law allows the person to enjoy AC21 portability benefits, one can and should be able to argue and get the I-485 approval based on the earlier PD and without having to start a new GC process with a new employer all over again.

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Chat User : Hello, I am on an H1B visa working as full time and permanent employee, and I want to apply for a part-time H1B. Is the part-time H1B subject to the cap regulation, or we can apply now? If so, what is the procedure?

Attorney Murthy : If a person already has an H1B petition approval, then s/he is allowed to file another new H1B with another employer, for either part-time or full-time employment. Actually, under the wording of the law, one can work for the new employer, even if it is a cap-subject employer, as long as s/he continues to work with the H1B cap-exempt employer. It is the language of the AC21 law, and the USCIS senior officials have agreed with this interpretation. If the person stops working with the cap-exempt employer, then s/he will need to be counted against the cap. In your question, it is not clear if the first employer is a cap-subject or cap- exempt employer, but I have tried to answer the question for you in both situations.

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Chat User : When we apply for AOS, we have to be in the country. After it has been applied for, can we leave the country for a week and come back on a valid H-1 or H-4 visa?

Attorney Murthy : It is possible to travel abroad after filing the I-485 and reentering in H1B or H-4 status with the visa stamps that have not yet expired in the passport, assuming that one is not subject to the 3-year or 10-year bar.

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Chat User : My OPT ends in June. My H1B starts in October 2007. I am planning to use one month of the grace period and stay in the country until say July 17th. Will using one month of grace period affect my green card processing in the future?

Attorney Murthy : Actually, the law allows a person to stay legally in the U.S. for up to 60 days, so staying for one month should have no adverse impact on the GC process at all for such a person, generally.

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Chat User : Hello, Murthyji. How many times can I transfer the earlier priority date of an approved I-140 to a new I-140 of other future employers if I keep changing jobs, provided the I-140 is not revoked?

Attorney Murthy : The general rule of law is that there is no limit in transferring the earliest priority date to future filed GC cases unless there is a concern with fraud or misrepresentation by promising so many employers that one intends to work for them on a full-time and permanent basis for after obtaining permanent resident status.

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Laws are constantly changing. While accurate at the time of publication, this item is retained for archival and historic purposes and should not be presumed to be up-to-date indefinitely.

Responses vary with the nuances of each question and because immigration law is constantly changing. The subtle differences in questions may call for very different legal responses and strategies. You are advised to treat these materials as general information, not to be applied to a specific circumstance without consulting with your attorney.

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